celestineangel (celestineangel) wrote in kushiel_trilogy,
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Help!

I have some questions I need answered, and I haven't been able to find the information anywhere else, and I don't know where exactly in the books I'd find the answers, so I'd have to reread all of them to find it. Which would not be terrible, but would also take time.



All of these questions are about the priesthood of Naamah, not the adepts of the Night Court. If there's no definite answer in the canon, then I'm open to discussion of parts of the canon that could suggest the answer.

What is the process for becoming a priest/ess of Naamah? Is it similar to that of the Night Court? As in, does the prospective priest/ess foster with the temple, and have the same sort of training as the adepts, and generally finish their training around the same age (14ish). Or is their training a little freer, allowing them to follow the spark of Naamah in them as they please, as Moirin does?

And once their training is finished, I know they then go on a pilgrimage around Terre d'Ange where they are not allowed to turn down any who might come to them, and that lasts... how long? A year? A year and a day? Longer?

... um, I think that's it for now. The most important things.

(Basically, I'm trying to create a priest of Naamah character for a Kushiel-based RPG, but I want to keep everything as close as canon as possible. So I need help, please!)

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I think it was a year for the priest/ess to travel Terre D'Ange. I remember that about Amarante.

As far as their training, I don't remember any specific reference to it. And what Phèdre had for training with Cecilie might be the standard(-ish), but I don't know.
See, and Amarante is in the Imriel Trilogy, and I wouldn't have even thought to continue on to those! Thanks!

Hmm, well, Phèdre's training with Cecilie was standard(-ish) training for the Night Court. Somewhere in my head, I've come to the conclusion that the Night Court and the priesthood of Naamah are different in their execution. The priests/priestesses just seem more... free and serene than the adepts (with the possible exception of the Gentian and Balm adepts).
No problem re: Amarante!

I know that, in the Imri trilogy, he and Sidonie talk about dedicating a temple to Naamah and how Amarante went to Namarre to see her mother (and to some private spring? temple?), but I can't recall any other specifics about their training.

Even in the Moirin stories, I don't think she gets into that regarding her father's history.
Nerrrrg, see, I don't like having to make this stuff up if I can help it. :/ But I guess I can't help it this time.

So. From that I suppose I can gather that the priesthood's rituals are, with the exception of the year-long pilgrimage, more subdued and private than those of the Night Court.

Pah, we need books about an actual priest/ess of Naamah! :D
Seriously! JC could just keep going and going with official content and we'd eat it all up! :D

I picked up "Songs of Love and Death" at the library today so I can't wait to read about Rolande and Delaunay now!!
EEEEE, I totally need to get that!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elua_and_His_Companions

The Wikipedia articles show some *incredible* scholarship in digging out details!
You know, I've read that before, and I would swear most of that stuff about the priesthood of Naamah wasn't there. Just a few days ago!

Still, it says it's very similar, it doesn't say exactly the same. Hmmm... I must ponder these things.

Thanks!
if I remember right there were two different paths to the priesthood.. 1) was completing your training with one of the houses, paying off your marque and then entering the priesthood.. (ex. the Gentian adept who helps Phadre with her dreams, then she meets him as a priest of Nammah)
2)begining in one of the temples of Namahh and choosing the enter the priesthood (as described in the Imri cycle) I don't remember much of it being discussed in Phaedre's cycle.
I'd check Kushiel's Justice, the scene where Mavros and Amarante meet Imriel in the temple of Naamah before he goes to Alba, and skim some of the Terre d'Ange scenes in Naamah's Kiss, as far as background info goes.

We know that there are acolytes that serve in Naamah's temples, because Berengere is an acolyte when Phedre is first dedicated. And when Phedre rededicates herself in Chosen, I believe Berengere is a full priestess, but you'd have to check the scene to be sure. That gives some clues about how long the training goes on. I believe Mavros says in the scene in Justice that Amarante had completed all her training other than the Year of Service when she came to the court, and that was when Sidonie was .... fifteen or sixteen, I believe. I don't know if it's confirmed in canon, but I have in my head that Amarante is Sidonie's age or a couple of years older.

Somewhere it says that the training of a priest of Naamah is similar to a Servant of Naamah, except for one thing, but I can't remember where or what that one thing is.